Subject	Rationalism vs. Empiricism.
Posted by	CaliguyPurdue (Selin Design) on February 15, 2010 at 5:47 PM
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In Reply To	Re: You've been quite clear, ARP2000 is good enough for you posted by Tech@EPR on February 14, 2010 at 09:45 PM
Message	Not worth the debate... the correct choice is both. www.selindesign.net
Follow Ups	Rod Suggestions for 1000hp+ Z's - toykoz32 16:03:56 02/12/10 Re: Rod Suggestions for 1000hp+ Z's - Tech@EPR 17:52:48 02/12/10 Nobody ever considers the bolts... Crower with 280ksi bolts - LitlElvis 18:42:00 02/12/10 Can they be up graded? (n/m) - toykoz32 19:30:44 02/12/10 ARP offers quite a few bolts in the 260 to 280ksi range - LitlElvis 19:38:27 02/12/10 Re: Nobody ever considers the bolts... Crower with 280ksi bolts - Tech@EPR 19:48:31 02/12/10 my thoughts exactly - ZLover4Life 21:21:46 02/12/10 Re: my thoughts exactly - Tech@EPR 21:44:14 02/12/10 I prefer Pauters (n/m) - ztunerz 21:50:31 02/12/10 Which Rods are those in the PIC? (n/m) - Nostype2 06:08:43 02/13/10 look like crowers (n/m) - ztunerz 08:55:30 02/13/10 What's the story on those? - ClayZ90TT 10:46:42 02/13/10 Those look like Steve Melsons rods after the crank broke... (n/m) - Machtavian 14:03:44 02/13/10 Whats rods did you use Octavian? (n/m) - RevTech 17:19:25 02/13/10 I had stock rods in my car on my last build - Machtavian 17:31:02 02/13/10 But you ran 35+psi on a 30psi tune correct? (n/m) - RevTech 21:33:04 02/13/10 It was retuned, it had nothing to do with it. - Machtavian 23:26:04 02/13/10 You're saying the 2jz stock rods are stronger than the vg... - RevTech 00:31:47 02/14/10 Dude, that rod is damaged from some mechanical failure - LitlElvis 13:45:21 02/13/10 Re: Dude, that rod is damaged from some mechanical failure - Tech@EPR 16:43:28 02/13/10 I see, your point is the bolts didn't break so therefore - LitlElvis 19:15:54 02/13/10 Re: I see, your point is the bolts didn't break so therefore - Tech@EPR 19:57:13 02/13/10 good enough for the average build, and not one penny more - LitlElvis 20:12:21 02/13/10 Re: good enough for the average build, and not one penny more - Tech@EPR 22:07:19 02/14/10 I agree - aliaZ 11:30:35 02/15/10 Re: I see, your point is the bolts didn't break so therefore - Tech@EPR 20:16:22 02/13/10 agreed - aliaZ 11:21:11 02/15/10 Re: agreed - Tech@EPR 12:00:02 02/15/10 Re: Re: agreed - aliaZ 12:29:47 02/15/10 Can't say there are too many VGs pushing 1000 HP either - LitlElvis 13:54:43 02/13/10 Re: Can't say there are too many VGs pushing 1000 HP either - Tech@EPR 16:49:27 02/13/10 No denying the cost/performance of Scat/Eagle rods for - LitlElvis 19:01:08 02/13/10 Re: No denying the cost/performance of Scat/Eagle rods for - Tech@EPR 19:45:09 02/13/10 off-shore = Scat/Eagle or any other Chinese forged rod - LitlElvis 20:20:50 02/13/10 what's with you and this 8k rpm obsession? - ZLover4Life 20:40:30 02/13/10 Ok, let me explain... - LitlElvis 11:30:49 02/14/10 I'm not arguing that you haven't picked the right parts. - ZLover4Life 12:04:42 02/14/10 I never said it would be impossible to do below 8K RPM - LitlElvis 12:31:28 02/14/10 I can certainly agree with that. (n/m) - ZLover4Life 12:42:59 02/14/10 Bretts analysis is appropriate for the issue - CaliguyPurdue (Selin Design) 13:29:27 02/15/10 Re: Bretts analysis is appropriate for the issue - ZLover4Life 17:35:44 02/15/10 Yea I think we are on the same page... - CaliguyPurdue (Selin Design) 18:18:22 02/15/10 Interesting... - ZLover4Life 20:33:35 02/15/10 Haha, I was deciding between Purdue and - CaliguyPurdue (Selin Design) 11:47:20 02/16/10 Good idea on the google maps "tour." - ZLover4Life 17:08:29 02/16/10 Do you think 8k is out of the ball park on a 1000hp 3.0? - 550HPTT 00:39:58 02/15/10 Re: off-shore = Scat/Eagle or any other Chinese forged rod - Tech@EPR 21:04:51 02/13/10 It's not the ultimate HP, it's the RPM needed to get there - LitlElvis 14:10:25 02/13/10 Re: It's not the ultimate HP, it's the RPM needed to get there - Tech@EPR 16:51:36 02/13/10 Whats wrong with the stock rods? - RevTech 17:03:52 02/13/10 Re: Whats wrong with the stock rods? - Tech@EPR 17:07:24 02/13/10 Ztuner and SZ were talking about the Eagle caps stretching (n/m) - RevTech 17:18:15 02/13/10 Re: Ztuner and SZ were talking about the Eagle caps stretching - Tech@EPR 17:20:07 02/13/10 That engine was built for his sport 700 car back in the - Machtavian 17:26:29 02/13/10 Re: That engine was built for his sport 700 car back in the - Tech@EPR 19:46:40 02/13/10 That doesn't seem like the point. - SeedyROM 20:06:33 02/13/10 Re: That doesn't seem like the point. - Tech@EPR 21:02:51 02/13/10 i have seen the eagles stretch on our road race car - ztunerz 13:47:20 02/14/10 The stock rods are good for about 650-700 Rwhp, - Machtavian 17:29:25 02/13/10 Re: The stock rods are good for about 650-700 Rwhp, - Tech@EPR 19:38:31 02/13/10 And maybe a little more ;) (n/m) - DVDBURN (MD) 14:06:24 02/14/10 When is the last time you built a 1000HP VG? - LitlElvis 19:18:11 02/13/10 Re: When is the last time you built a 1000HP VG? - Tech@EPR 19:43:36 02/13/10 Only time will tell if your selected bolts will liv - LitlElvis 20:00:03 02/13/10 Re: Only time will tell if your selected bolts will liv - Tech@EPR 21:02:00 02/13/10 You've been quite clear, ARP2000 is good enough for you - LitlElvis 11:53:39 02/14/10 ouch (n/m) - ZiNnYc 17:50:44 02/14/10 Re: You've been quite clear, ARP2000 is good enough for you - Tech@EPR 21:45:44 02/14/10 If it good enough for escort, then im cool with it. (n/m) - toykoz32 23:29:32 02/14/10 You cannot compare the needs of an aluminum rod with that - 550HPTT 00:13:04 02/15/10 Re: You cannot compare the needs of an aluminum rod with that - Tech@EPR 11:53:39 02/15/10 Rationalism vs. Empiricism. - CaliguyPurdue (Selin Design) 17:47:53 02/15/10 Cromoly ftw. (n/m) - bbsalexaz 20:32:56 02/12/10 Duh, chromoly is not a brand........ (n/m) - SimaYi 12:04:55 02/13/10 Crower / Pauter (n/m) - collegeboy 00:35:53 02/13/10 I need to get rid of my brand new Crowers if interested. - collegeboy 00:37:12 02/13/10 What rods are in your build? (n/m) - toykoz32 12:46:44 02/13/10 Custom crowers. The crank and pistons are all custom too. - collegeboy 14:45:42 02/13/10 I'm curious, who told you to keep the hydraulic lifters - LitlElvis 14:40:58 02/13/10 Re: I'm curious, who told you to keep the hydraulic lifters - toykoz32 17:49:48 02/13/10 Carrillo (n/m) - John@Z1 15:36:22 02/13/10
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